Live & Interactive Discussion with members of The International End of Life Doula Association End-of-Life Doulas are non-medical companions to the dying and their families. Doulas do not take the place of hospice personnel; rather, they complement other services that a dying person and their family may be receiving, including hospice or palliative care.
Panel of Instructors: The International End of Life Doula Association
Presentation INELDA PROAGING Slides102621.pdf
Questions Asked
Chat Transcript
12:06:31 From Miriam Arnheim : HI! Miriam Arnheim LCSW, ACHP-SW, APHSW-C Palliative Care social worker at University Hospital in Newark, NJ and possibly interested in becoming a Death Doula as well.
12:06:56 From Marci Stinson : Hi everyone. Coming from the Eastern Shore of MD working with low income seniors in Talbot County.
12:07:10 From Jane Euler : • $75 – 1 hour in person visit with Greta Sept 7, 2021
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12:07:29 From Dana Bradley : Great to see so many people! Dana Bradley, Dean, UMBC's Erickson School of Aging. So PROUD of our alumni Val Walker and Steve Gurney!
12:08:17 From Carla Andersen : Good Morning from Centreville, VA. Carla Hope Andersen, RN, smoothmovesbodywork@yahoo.com providing end of life care in homes in northern VA. happyhearts-homecare.com. thank you all
12:08:21 From Estella Davis : Estella Davis, Lead Health Coach Prince William Area Agency on Aging Woodbridge, VA. Former Hospice Social Worker...very interested in Death Doulas!
12:08:29 From Jane Euler : Jane Euler - end of life doula in No. Va - transitionwithtranquility.org
12:08:37 From Leigh Pratt : Hello from Kennett Square PA. I am a Bereavement Coordinator at Willow Tree Hospice
12:08:38 From Kim Stravers to Hosts and panelists : Good morning! Kim Stravers, death doula, hospice volunteer, funeral attendant and celebrant living and working in Phoenix. So pleased to join everyone!
12:08:38 From Jane Euler : Sorry for wrong paste!
12:08:41 From Steve Gurney - ProAging Sourcebook : From Marika Humphreys to All Panelists 12:03 PM
Marika Humphreys - I’m a life coach for people who have a partner with cancer. Looking forward to learning more!
12:08:51 From Lauren Butler to Hosts and panelists : So great to see all of you amazing Doulas & Teachers again!!!
12:09:16 From Jean Mucher : Greetings! Certified EOL Doula through INELDA. Residing in Rio Rancho, New Mexico
12:09:19 From Adele Logan-Galen : Can panelists please put in their contact info? Thanks
12:09:36 From Kris Kington-Barker to Hosts and panelists : Kris Kington-Barker
12:09:46 From Valoria Walker to Hosts and panelists : Valoria Walker www.doulabydestiny.com
12:09:49 From Kris Kington-Barker to Hosts and panelists : Kris@inelda.org
12:09:52 From Jane Euler to Hosts and panelists : Hi Val!
12:10:21 From Valoria Walker to Jane Euler and all panelists : Hello Thanks for joining us this morning
12:11:37 From Steve Gurney - ProAging Sourcebook : Valoria Walker doulabydestiny@gmail.com
Julia Andino Julia@inelda.org,
Marady Duran Marady@inelda.org
Kris Kington-Barker Kris@inelda.org
12:12:01 From Audra Backaitis to Hosts and panelists : Thanks for explaning about INELDA....I was looking for her on the panel!
12:13:45 From Kirsten Smith : I am a volunteer with Empath Health in Florida, and we are starting a doula program. Kris did our training. She is awesome!
12:13:48 From Janet Prescott : Hi! I'm an INELDA trained doula with a long professional hospice career, though now retired!
12:14:23 From Steve Gurney - ProAging Sourcebook : INELDA = The International End of Life Doula Association
12:15:01 From Steve Gurney - ProAging Sourcebook : From Kim Stravers to All Panelists 12:08 PM
Good morning! Kim Stravers, death doula, hospice volunteer, funeral attendant and celebrant living and working in Phoenix. So pleased to join everyone!
12:16:34 From Karen Lekashman : Good Morning!
Karen Lekashman, Aging Life Care Manager,
in the SF Bay area – South Bay;
karen@lekashman.com
I am very interested to learn more about
the work of an End of Life Doula.
12:17:13 From Katie Rappaport : Good Morning! Katie Rappaport, Doula, hospice volunteer in Indianapolis, IN
12:20:07 From Meghan Wrinkle : how does your work vary when working with different age groups?
12:22:02 From Jane Forer : Tell us about which services have fees and which do not.
12:24:28 From Jane King : Js jt possible to have a copy of this presentation?
12:25:28 From Dixcy Bosley : Support Build Back Better Human Infrastructure bill so family caregivers can get much needed relief. Caring for aging parents as well as children reflects the values of a pro-family society
12:26:48 From Emily Kearns to Hosts and panelists : Will this recording be shared with participants? I have a last-minute meeting conflict and may need to leave, early.Thank you.
12:30:07 From Valoria Walker to Hosts and panelists : Steve are you sharing the screen.
12:30:26 From Valoria Walker to Hosts and panelists : Do I need to reshare?
12:31:04 From Deb Merriner : My son-in-law’s mother passed away in Egypt yesterday. An end of life doula would have been a wonderful gift to give his family. How would one find a doula in another country? Deb Merriner, Buckley’s for Seniors, Premium Companion, Care Management and Transportation, 703-390-0535
12:31:26 From Carla Andersen : round-the-clock care is what I do, having known for many years how limited Hospice is. This often involves respite for other care givers, and family members distressed by the situation.
12:32:48 From Kim Stravers to Hosts and panelists : Respite with hospice also sometimes means a patient is transferred into a facility for a period of time (say, a week) rather than remaining home while caregivers get away for some rest time
12:34:13 From Karen Lekashman : Is there a directory of respite and hospices houses in the US?
12:42:27 From Colleen Hurley : Val's hospice volunteer experience is very different from mine. I go into people's homes, working with one patient at a time.
12:42:55 From MaryAnn Griffin : Are Doulas licensed by the States where they practice? Is there a formal certification?
12:43:23 From Dixcy Bosley : Smaller community based non-profit hospices are closing across the country b/c the reimbursement is so low. Medicare needs to support hospice and and end of life choices more generously. It saves money. Mostly, ensures for a better death.
12:43:57 From Kim Stravers to Hosts and panelists : No, there is no national board or governing body. However, different doula organizations who provide training, like INELDA, also often provide their own certification. INELDA's is rigorous!
12:44:05 From wendy liebling : a valuable resource both personally & professionally. is there a provider list on the INELDA website around the country?
12:44:25 From Emily Kearns : Will this recording be shared with us after?
12:44:30 From wendy liebling : thank you to all, Wendy Liebling, Aging Life Care Professional in Phila area & suburbs
12:44:52 From Kim Stravers to Hosts and panelists : There is a Doula Directory that you can sort by state on INELDA's website :)
12:45:28 From Heather Suri : "guardian of their soul" - I can't think of a more eloquent way to describe the important work you do.
12:45:59 From Valoria Walker to Kim Stravers and all panelists : Kim we will share that information. Yes there is a INELDA doula directory on at www.inelda.org
12:46:45 From Valoria Walker to Heather Suri and all panelists : Heather we appreciate you for acknowledging our role.
12:47:10 From Steve Gurney - ProAging Sourcebook : If there is anyone on the discussion today that can help one of our community members with this challenge email me at steve@proaging.com "My son, 54 is suffering greatly from severe on-going pulsatile tinnitus. He has had multiple different tests – is seeing a clinic in Frederick, MD for special hearing aids. BUT he desperately needs a new internist… not GP or family practice. If you can makes some recommendation that would be great.
12:48:26 From Valoria Walker to Dixcy Bosley and all panelists : Hello Dixcy Glad to have you join us. I hope you are well. I agree with your comment to everyone.
12:49:52 From Valoria Walker to Steve Gurney - ProAging Sourcebook(Direct Message) : Steve we have a couple more slides after Julia that Marady will wrap us.
12:50:15 From Steve Gurney - ProAging Sourcebook to Valoria Walker(Direct Message) : got it! this is gonna go long!
12:50:54 From Valoria Walker to Steve Gurney - ProAging Sourcebook(Direct Message) : I figured.
12:50:56 From Kris Kington-Barker : @Maryann, this is a new field and there is no nationally recognize license or certification at this time. The National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization (NHPCO) currently has an End of Life Doula Council to consider what certification might look like. They have determined a scope of practice which training organizations like INELDA adhere to. INELDA has its own certification that is focused to support INELDA trained doulas in putting their training into practice and receiving continued growth and learning through instructor feedback about how they are implementing their work as a doula.
12:51:47 From Melissa Levering : Hello all, Melissa, Volunteer Coordinator for Sutter Hospice in Sacramento. We have been wanting to start an End of life Doula volunteer program for a few years. Our current road block is that our patients must wear a surgical mask in order to have a volunteer in the home and probably 10ish% of our patients are able to tolerate a mask and of course the last weeks/days of life a mask would not be an option. Has anyone found any work around for this type of requirement?
12:52:57 From Mary Wontrop : FYI the new Jodi Picoult Novel Book of Two Ways main character is a End of Life Doula.
12:53:50 From Dixcy Bosley to Hosts and panelists : Bravo on this gig and your expanding business serving others with a good death. Your mother would be so proud
12:54:14 From Jane Euler to Hosts and panelists : I inadvertently pasted info that should not be available .. .anyway you can delete before making it available. Sorry for the trouble!!
12:54:42 From Valoria Walker to Melissa Levering and all panelists : please contact inelda.org or email Kris@inelda.org
12:55:21 From Valoria Walker to Dixcy Bosley and all panelists : Thank you Dixcy.
12:56:17 From Steve Gurney - ProAging Sourcebook : no worries jane - unfortunately I cant do that but it was not a problem
12:56:22 From Steve Gurney - ProAging Sourcebook : Val we remember you from Steves Pro Source Aging presentation which included VOICE YOUR CHOICE. Thank you for your hard work inspired by your experience with what happened with your Mother. Can our End of Life Doula choices be included in the Voice Your Choice Program and are you still working with that program? Thank you so much
12:56:57 From Dixcy Bosley : Hospice rate is about $150 -200 / day .
What do MRI scanners, high tech care cost Medicare??? Shameful
12:57:21 From Jane Euler : The problem is metrics are needed to show the value of doulas.
12:58:12 From Valoria Walker : The Voice Your Choice program ended but a lot resources are still on the website.
12:59:06 From Lori Stahl : Thank you to the panel for all you do and Marady - your comments pertaining to your philosophy of practice.
12:59:14 From Dakota Karrasch : Every facility/community I have been working in is short handed and understaffed...our Hospice volunteers are providing a lot of help to our Companions. There is a huge need for that extra pair of hands to give care!
12:59:30 From Melinda Lohman-Hinz : Thank you for all of this information. You all do amazing work!
13:01:00 From Audra Backaitis : What insurance company offers Doula insurance?
13:02:31 From Dakota Karrasch : I sat vigil last night with someone who died while I was with her...it was my honor!
13:02:34 From Kris Kington-Barker : CM&F Insurance
13:03:10 From Ruth DeHart : Thank you for this amazing discussion, it was new to me and will now know how to refer others to a doula. Best.
13:03:49 From Kris Kington-Barker : The coverage for CM&F Insurance lists end of life doulas under "Death Doula" they also insure Birth Doulas
13:04:10 From Audra Backaitis : Thank you!
13:04:13 From Valoria Walker : Insurance https://www.cmfgroup.com/professional-liability-insurance/acupuncture-holistic-medicine-professional-insurance/end-of-life-doula-insurance/
13:04:56 From Valoria Walker to Dakota Karrasch and all panelists : Thank you Dakota for holding that space,'
13:06:36 From Carla Andersen : All care givers and doulas need to have deep understanding of their own feelings surrounding death, and the meaning of our earthly lives. The more comfortable you are with your own mortality, the easier it is to comfort others facing end of life. Reiki and other hands-on comforting techniques connect us, helping many deal with feelings of isolation.
13:12:18 From Valoria Walker : Awesome questions and great engagement. Thank you all for you attention and questions.
13:12:32 From Valoria Walker : your attention and questios
13:12:56 From Valoria Walker : I'll get it right: your attention and questions lol
13:13:09 From Adele Logan-Galen : Thanks to all of you! I might pursue this profession so you may be hearing from me. Wish I knew about you when my parents passed. Adele Logan-Galen, adele@smoothmovemanagers.com
13:13:39 From Adele Logan-Galen : Thanks for doing this Steve!!
13:13:56 From Audra Backaitis : Great presentation! Thank you so much.
13:14:08 From Valoria Walker to Adele Logan-Galen and all panelists : Adele we have training opening for the first quarter. They often sale out so register early.
13:14:19 From Julia Andino to Hosts and panelists : Thank you all!
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